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Anne Barton's avatar

This is awesome! Caliban and the Witch is such a dense book to unpack. One thought which I’ve had recently (due to the US government whining about deficits and Social Security again) is a consideration of the way in which culture has shifted away from viewing children as having a responsibility to their parents in old age. The new attitude is that parents should be supported by investments in their elder years. Failure to create adequate investments is coming to be seen as a failing, and as an unfair burden upon the younger generations. Which has a couple of interesting implications:

1) The reproductive labor of parents (primarily women) is performed solely as a hobby. There is no reciprocal obligation of mutual aid.

2) The labor of the old is worthless. If Grandma watches the kids, it’s a hobby, not economical vital labor.

3) We can/ should entrust our futures to capitalism rather than to our next of kin. The parents kick their kids out at 18 with a bootstrap lecture and their kids dump them in a nursing home at 80 and move on.

I don’t know, I’m short on time to really think hard enough about this. It just seems to me that there’s something precious being lost when people no longer plan to hand a business off to their kids, or when they are getting a reverse mortgage instead of their kids inheriting their home. Of course, these are privileged positions to be in, to have that kind of wealth to hand down. And then there is the reality that the elderly phase of life will look more and more different for rich vs poor. Poor Grandma will watch her grandkids so her kids can work and be shamed for being a burden while performing economically vital work (daycare is running $1000+/ month with a desperate shortage of providers in the US). Rich Grandma will die of loneliness in a five star nursing home staffed by immigrant women whose mothers are watching their kids at home and being shamed for not having independent retirements.

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sistersmith's avatar

I don't have something very interesting to add, I found that chapter fascinating and your summary made the concept clearer to my mind.

But LOL did Focault really believe the body was constituted merely by words and thoughts and societal ideas?? I can't fathom how someone can think that. Like, the first time after conceiving that idea that he stumbled over some door step, or had a bout of diarrhea or something it should have become clear to him that physical existence is a reality. Now, I haven't read Focault but I translate the way you describe 'discourse' into 'words, thoughts and societal ideas' which makes that particular idea sound utterly and obviously dumb. Unironically was that what Focault meant? Because if, then damn, we're out of touch as humanity. Only a species of interdimansional beings floating in the information void should ever conceive their bodies as consisting of ideas.

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