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Dave's avatar

I'm upset about the tariffs, but for the same reason you're optimistic about them. I think they've been thrown together in such a slapdash, retaliatory way that the very idea of tariffs will end up taking another century to recover from. I would love to see some tariffs put in place to encourage local ag and manufacturing and to ensure that companies can't benefit from outsourcing everything to places lacking labor and environmental protections, but instead we're busy picking fights with Canada and Denmark. And nobody's going to invest in domestic manufacturing when the tariff landscape is changing weekly, daily, or even hourly - companies need to believe the tariffs will stick before they set up factories in the US again. I was hopeful these tariffs would work when I heard Vance talk about them during this campaign, but I'm nervous they're just going to fail so miserably we'll end up with another 80-year backlash on the idea.

(I do feel a good bit of schadenfreude when the market dips though, despite my own retirement accounts!)

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Superball's avatar

I’m glad you’re not easily bullied! 🙏🏼❤️🔥 You put into words what has been bugging me about the resistance to tariffs. Why *shouldn’t* we sustain ourselves with who and what interrelates with us where we are? I don’t like what Trump wants to do to our lands, but it’s what we’ve been doing to other lands. The real change required, one way or another, is degrowth—or a return to growth, decay, death, and regrowth, which is the way of things, anyway. I’m still gearing toward local, reciprocal, organic, and plastic-free.

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