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Christina Waggaman's avatar

I really enjoyed this piece!

I have been apart of a few of groups of people studying eastern traditional medicines who believe in spirits and the ability of humans (sometimes) to see and hear them. However, whenever the discussion comes up about the difference between being crazy and having some sort of real experience if the unseen world, it’s been stressed over and over that there is a clear delineation between someone struggling with a mental illness like schizophrenia and someone who can “actually” see spirits.

This insistence that there is a clear distinction has never sat right with me because of an experience I had with a schizophrenic man on a bus several years ago who was most definitely completely crazy and who also most definitely told me things about myself no one could have possibly known. He also predicted a big event several months into the future that ended up happening

I very much agree with you that there is a range of functioning among people who are more porous, and really appreciated you sharing your experiences with this. Perhaps this is why some people can only have these experiences with the help of psychedelics, others can easily slip into them with the use of more mild methods like meditation or drumming, and others can’t filter these experiences out at all.

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Deb's avatar

Excellent piece, thank you so much for this. As someone who grew up both as a Pentecostal Christian and in a non-western country, I have a hard time wrapping my head around people who don't believe in spirits (good, bad or neutral). It just seems so naive.. I love what you said about mental illness making people more porous to spirits, rather than the spirits causing the illness. This makes sense to me and is the first time I've heard it put that way. So thanks for that.

Finally, I was reminded of the story in Acts 16 in the Bible where Paul and his companions are being followed around by a demon-possessed slave girl who keeps prophecying (truthfully) about who they are (servants of God Most High) and what their message is (the way of salvation). Eventually Paul gets fed up with this and commands the demon to come out of her, which it does. Unfortunately the girl's owners are less than impressed as her ability to prophecy had been a tidy source of income for them and so they proceed to drag Paul and his friends before the magistrates, who have them thrown into prison. What I love about this story (and others like it) is how natural this mixture of spirits and profits and compassion and prophecy seems to everyone. It's only western Christians today who struggle to make it fit into their understanding of the world. Back then it was just normal.

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